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Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoiler*
Jul 16 2009, 3:02 AM EDT
Im thinking that Nancy is drawn to the idea of controlling her own destiny. Not having her husband around anymore forces her to face her own nature, and through each sucessful flirt with a dangerous situation, her ability to overcome and adapt to it's challenge, ups her ambition for how far she feels compelled to push herself the next time. It has come to the point now where she has formed an alliance with the biggest dog around because, as we know, when you are the mate of the alpha dog, you become the alpha bitch... and no one can touch you. The petty battles she once had to fight alone, she no longer needs to fight. The only question is, can she maintain her status, sanity, family, and any semblance of independance in this new lifestyle? We shall see. I for one, am excited.
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Inspectah13 |
1. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoiler*
Jul 17 2009, 2:15 PM EDT
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I would agree with that, but that being said it makes her the worst mother around. This is because she is putting her own need to feel 'alive' in front of the well-being of her family. And her families well-being was supposedly why she started selling baked pot goods in season one. It would seem that mrs. kohan has had a change of heart since season one, meaning hat in season one you could still be a good mother and sell pot, to now she is a defacto drug dealer and a horrible mother who allows her children to get into the worst possible situations. The show has become anti-pot propaganda, when it used to be a pot based sit com. I agree taht nancy likes to test her limits, selfishly, and to the detriment of everyone around her. Whats not clear is if jenji is saying taht she is this way now because of selling drugs, or if she sold drugs because she is that way...(chicken or the egg i guess) Either wat this show has taken a turn into desperate houswives night time soap opera territoy, all tahts left is to go to hour longs and add in the cheesy soap opera music and the transformation would be complete. (edit-halfway through season 5 and they have started to bring back the comedy some, but nancy is still horribly selfish and self centered in her actions, seriously not a good mother at all, but a slutty, crazy, good time i guess for the guys she is constantly getting into danger and sleeping with)
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CeliaHodes |
2. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoiler*
Jul 27 2009, 2:30 PM EDT
I think she will maintian her sainty by fleeing. I just became a fan by watching the show seasons 1-5 last week. I loved the first 3 seasons. They were hilarious and light hearted. After the DEA husband was killed it became more dramatic and less lighthearted. The show is centered around Nancy Botwin- a mother that provides for her family by any means necessary. For a while, I thought she was a hooker because she slept around so much. She messed with her boss knowing he was with her so called friend. But I think it was because she loves to be in control and in that time, she controlled him. Her kids are growing up to be the most disrespectful, yet handsome young men. And now she had another son to add to the madness. Poor Andy has put in work, time and effort to helping her at home, while she built her "empire" and look at the thanks he got. I wish that they did get together even if it were for one night. Maybe they'd see they are better off as friends. Maybe Andy would get over her. Nancy likes to be in control of all of her life situations. Her ultrasound pic was her trump card when she had nothing else. But it saved her life. Now, she gets another chance at being a better mother. I can't wait to see what really happens.
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jvn715 |
3. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoiler*
Nov 3 2009, 2:11 AM EST
As the show progresses, filled with its irony and the insight into the hypocrisies of life. Nancy becomes a much darker character and it becomes much harder to sympathize with her. But that what makes the show great, is how she is becoming an incredible *****. And you grow to have more pity on Celia... with that there is even greater irony to appreciate. Nancy's poor decisions are inherent with the more self-centered and consumed she becomes to get money, money, money, get money, money MON-AY. It's the DRUG BUSINESS and it further corrupts any sense of morality she had. Drugs are not bad, just the people that are involved in selling them, that is the best anti-drug message there is--- stay away from ******** lol. She didn't even flinch SUFFOCATING Bubbie, and oddly I find this hilarious and very entertaining!
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vin006 |
4. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoile
Nov 3 2009, 11:00 AM EST
The more I watch Nancy the more she reminds me of Tony Soprano near the end. She has made SO many bad choices and the ripple effect on her family and friends has been profound and sent those she loves into dark places as they try to please her and win her love--whatever that takes. She seems increasingly desperate and stumbles blindly from one thing to the next to survive. What she has not done, in any meaningful way, is to reflect on what she has done and the consequences of her actions. At this stage she is drifting. Thus far when she is in such a situation she latches onto whatever she encounters as she drifts along. Can't really make a suggestion as to what will happen in the end, but I think that:A) She will have to find redemption in someway (Something Tony never did) or, B) She will have to accept the consequences of what she has done with her life and learn to live with those consequences (as Tony did in the end). It will come down to what kind of person Nancy actually is at heart and at this stage we--most of all Nancy--have no idea as to the answer to that question. Vin006 Do you find this valuable? |
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toronto1969 |
5. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoile
Nov 6 2009, 10:59 PM EST
I think that she does have an undeniable attraction to danger which almost becomes an addiction. But I also think that she likewise seeks protection at the same time, and tries to form alliances with men who have the means to protect her and her kids. In covering all of the bases, she ends up with multiple alliances with men who are natural enemies of each other - as well as often being obviously dangerous to her - which is really a fascinating theme. The more dangerous situations she involves herself in, the more protection she requires, and the cycle continues. All in all it makes for very addicting entertainment! :)
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DinaJohnstone |
6. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoile
Mar 12 2010, 5:05 PM EST
"I think that she does have an undeniable attraction to danger which almost becomes an addiction. But I also think that she likewise seeks protection at the same time, and tries to form alliances with men who have the means to protect her and her kids. In covering all of the bases, she ends up with multiple alliances with men who are natural enemies of each other - as well as often being obviously dangerous to her - which is really a fascinating theme. The more dangerous situations she involves herself in, the more protection she requires, and the cycle continues. All in all it makes for very addicting entertainment! :)"I agree, Toronto. Great analysis. Nancy does not even seem to have the natural threshold for fear that most women have. Especially most mothers have a very low threshold for fear. She does seem out there, but what I love about this show the most is that they are not making Nancy into a hypocrite. She wanted to sell drugs, now she is married to a kingpin. She is not crying about this, nor feeling guilty about these choices. She does feel badly about the effect of her parenting on her kids, but her parenting is problematic with or without the drug world. Most tv shows and films seem to moralize and punish the "bad" characters, but this show is all gray area. I love that. Do you find this valuable? |
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weeds12457 |
7. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoiler*
Feb 15 2011, 3:15 PM EST
i think that the writers of the show in many ways destroyed the nancy character after season 2. the character becomes psychological unbelivable. she is supposed to be fairly intelligent and moraly upright, however, she stops thinking ahed or even thinking at all. she does not plan anymore but reacts to others from a dominant character she turns into the erratic woman of seasons 3-6. In large parts it is her failing to communicate with her family that leads to mistakes and complications that allow the writers to continue the plot, which gets more and more irrational. this results in a fairly boring and average show towards the end. the show loses all its black humour and wit. I seriously hope they get a few new good writers on the show for season 7.
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vin006 |
8. RE: Theory on why Nancy makes the decicions she does. *possible spoile
Feb 16 2011, 12:35 AM EST
"I think that she does have an undeniable attraction to danger which almost becomes an addiction. But I also think that she likewise seeks protection at the same time, and tries to form alliances with men who have the means to protect her and her kids. In covering all of the bases, she ends up with multiple alliances with men who are natural enemies of each other - as well as often being obviously dangerous to her - which is really a fascinating theme. The more dangerous situations she involves herself in, the more protection she requires, and the cycle continues. All in all it makes for very addicting entertainment! :)"Nancy is an addict. She is a scared person running from one dangerous situation to the next. She does not have the guts to stand up for herself and thus all those who depend on her suffer. The root of Nancy's problems is Nancy. The little glimpses we had of her before her husband died made it look like she was a happy person, perhaps content as a wife and mother. When that world was destroyed she had no idea what to do and has gone from one failed idea to the next. Thus far this is a tragic story, a tragedy in the classic sense. As in Shakespeare when the king falters all goes to hell in a hand basket pretty quickly. Either Nancy finds a way to take charge in a meaningful way, or this ends badly. I saw the end of the last sea on as a possible sign that Nancy was willing to make real sacrifices, ones involving real risk for herself, to save her family. That was a hint of redemption for her. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
